EhrmanDigfoot commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
When the old Blue Mars client used the individual downloads for each environment I always had to second guess the commitment and usually logged off instead.What would improve immersion for me would be...
View ArticleNalates Urriah commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
Good idea. Probably not that easy to implement. But, a good idea.
View ArticleNanu commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why...
when rod signed up i actually thought with his background and interest in experimental games or call it game as art or whatever, they would come up with better ideas than just turning SL into an...
View Articlefoneco zuzu commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
Rod pointed a way, now just bring it to light:)
View ArticleDizzy Banjo commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
As I mentioned on previous comments on this blog, and have babbled on about for years in Linden office hours, I think pre-cacheing is very interesting. My comments were generally rebuffed by LL staff...
View ArticlePathfinder commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
Rod Humble said: "It would also be cool to have new users go straight to an area if they came from that 3rd party referral site."Everything old is new...
View Articleqarl commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why...
one idea to improve slow rezzing: make it fun with visual effects. maybe a tron-like glowing wireframe as objects pop into view.(yes, doesn't actually fix anything, but gives you something to look at...
View ArticleArcadia Codesmith commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
What Dizzy said. There are a few pre-caching advocates that have been harping on this point for awhile. This almost feels like an, "oh! THAT'S what you were talking about!" moment.Welcome to the...
View ArticleMetacam Oh commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
I'm with Qarl, some sort of Matrix rezzing textures instead of grey goop would do a little bit. Also for the viewer to rez things closer to you as first priority would make sense, and an option to...
View Articleshockwave yareach commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
I also agree with Qarl -- While gray is better than "TEXTURE LOADING" all over the place, it looks horrible. Just have the default texture be a black square with blue glowing border. Would be easy to...
View ArticleAnn Otoole InSL commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
If LL wants to improve new customer retention then they have a choice. Either police the welcome areas or delete them all and dump new customers into estates with staff on hand that keeps the...
View ArticlePsion commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why...
Here's a thumbs-up for Qarl's suggestion. Couldn't it be implemented using wireframe rendering until the texture is loaded using a pulsing wire color that fades/de-saturates with distance?So on first...
View ArticleKR commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why Not...
Rod... I'm really surprised you don't know more about Second Life and it's history. Your 'would be cool' suggestion above shows you clearly don't. I would have thought that would be an essential...
View ArticleCiaran Laval commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
When I first came to second life, I thought those avatars wearing white outfits with text on them were wearing a very popular inworld brand, it took me a while to realise it was actually the fact that...
View ArticleHamlet Au commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
That's not the kind of civil response that encourages productive conversation, I doubt all Lindens are aware of all the discarded/shelved/de-emphasized Linden projects of the last 10 years. In this...
View ArticleKR commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why Not...
@CiaranDoes it even need a sim specific viewer download? Surely they could fairly easily allow users to set their own preferred 3rd party home page in the viewer, and simply have a 'set as home page'...
View ArticlePussycat Catnap commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
The problem with retention, IMO, is not about downloads and pretty areas.Its about meeting people and finding pretty avatars -to talk to-.People log into SL and the most common questions you get seem...
View ArticleEhrmanDigfoot commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
I'm down with the 3rd party API, and love Qarl's suggestion for making the rezz process more Tron like. These type of visual metaphors go a long way to communicate what's going on at a technical level....
View ArticlePussycat Catnap commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
@Ann: Word.@KR: Maybe its not so bad that he has gaps in knowledge of SL history - if that prevents him from dismissing good ideas with 'that won't work, we tried it once before, didn't do it right,...
View ArticleEzra commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why...
Pretty much all of this stuff needs to be implemented. It'd be nice if we could hit a checkbox to give a select amount of sims preferential caching. It's probably not efficient that the sim we visit...
View ArticleKR commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why Not...
I'm sorry, Hamlet - and Rod - if you think I was being rude. I was just genuinely surprised that the man charged with leading SL into the future wouldn't be aware of some of the major initiatives of...
View ArticleArcadia Codesmith commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
Performance does drive recruitment and retention. If somebody logs into SL and it operates as smoothly as the disk-cached virtual worlds/MMOs that they're used to, they're more likely to stick around...
View ArticleDizzy Banjo commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
I agree with some points here and think preloaded areas would cause an expectation management issue. But performance expectations are already firmly established prior to them installing anything - by...
View ArticleKR commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why Not...
The trouble is, Arcadia, that pre-loading doesn't really achieve performance. It 'fakes' initial performance until you leave the preloaded area, and potentially sets an expectation that the rest of...
View ArticleQueenKellee Kuu commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
I like the idea of pre-loading. But there are a lot of gotchas involved with it. And I can't help but think of how I am with a build, little tweaks all the time. I like how things don't have a final...
View ArticleAdeon Writer commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
I would say the biggest problem new users face is not lag, graphics, FPS, or UI confusion, but rather it's the nature of the crowds that hang out in Welcome Areas, preying on new accounts and in...
View ArticleAlazarin commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
How about keeping the viewer as-is and having extra downloadable packs of textures + objects? For instance the welcome area pack for new residents and various other packs for different types of region:...
View ArticleKR commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why Not...
@AdeonAgree 100% And for the record, that's a large part of why I *do* advocate the idea of community gateways. Because right now the 'welcome' to SL is anything but, and I sincerely believe residents...
View ArticleAeonix Aeon commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
I remember back in the 1990's ActiveWorlds approached the same problem. In a dynamic and streaming world, how do you handle users who are used to local content and instant gratification?Their answer at...
View ArticleThadicus Caligari commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
Maybe its good Rod doesn't know more about some of the history. Leaves openings to re-implement an old scheme but maybe a better way that was possibly killed for the wrong reason.As I read this post...
View ArticleAnn Otoole InSL commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
@Aeonix Aeon - I have a much better idea. LL has no fealty to the US government outside of paying due taxes. What LL needs to do big time is tell the US Gov to take a long walk off a short pier and...
View ArticleEhrmanDigfoot commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
I agree with Adeon's comments. I had never been to a welcome area until yesterday when I visited Linden Realms. For the full duration of my stay (20 minutes) two young men from Iceland were belching...
View ArticleCiaran Laval commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
@KR Good point, you're right, it shouldn't require a sim viewer download, just the chance for the set login screen to display information about the sim you're set to login to.I was getting a bit ahead...
View ArticleFuzzball Ortega commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
Too many good points for me to add in my ignorant viewpoint.I agree with Thad on the possibility of having the option to set unique cache, if that's possible.Too many good ideas and suggestions. Hope...
View ArticleDeNovo Broome commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
Let's DO realize - everyone - that the beauty of SL is that it is a platform that makes it possible to do *different things* and that there's nothing at all wrong with the idea of having areas that...
View ArticleCandy Cerveau commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
"That's not the kind of civil response that encourages productive conversation, I doubt all Lindens are aware of all the discarded/shelved/de-emphasized Linden projects of the last 10 years."Agreed....
View ArticleKR commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why Not...
@Candy. I assume you're not talking about me, then! I'm definitely not "the same complainers". I haven't attempted to participated in this blog or any other "constructive" dialog with LL or other...
View ArticleCandy Cerveau commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
I was speaking generally. However, the fact that you haven't participated for some years doesn't really make your comments different. When you did choose to respond, it was still with sarcasm and...
View ArticleMark Ciccarello commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
"My comments were generally rebuffed by LL staff at office hours as they were against the pure ethos of SL itself as a live streamed world."Hmm, well never underestimate the Lindens' ability to...
View ArticleOrca Flotta commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
After reading the very intereting article and comments I come to the conclusion that we're trying to heal the system by curing single symptoms. That's not the holistic approach as it would be needed...
View ArticleKR commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms, Why Not...
It's unrealistic to expect the CEO of Linden Lab to be more versed with his product that I am? Granted I've been in SL since 2003, but I'm just a resident. He has a helluva lot more of a vested...
View ArticleDale Innis commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
I'm with KR on the concern that preloading certain areas of the world will just make the rest of the world seem slow and annoying, both in comparison to the preloaded ones AND because it means that...
View ArticlePathfinder commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
Constructive conversations go hand in hand with constructive criticism.I think KR is being constructively critical.
View ArticleDizzy Banjo commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
It would be very interesting to know what percentage of the whole of SL is actually changed often dynamically and what percentage remains static for over a certain time period - like a week.I wonder...
View ArticleLani Global commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
Get my free GLOBAL TEXTURE PRELOADER device at my stores in OSGrid ( opensim )It has been available for about a year.
View ArticleTateru Nino commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
I suppose the basic issue boils down to: Other virtual environments thought this was a problem and did looked to preloading - but it turned out to not make a significant difference, because it wasn't...
View ArticleWinter Jefferson commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
OH OH OH wireframe rezzing in textures - can we have this pleeeease? That would be SO COOL. The wireframe has its own minimalist beauty and I have learned to hate grey. Which is an awful shame.
View ArticleMatthew Leach commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
Too late to the conversation :(It seems as thought there could be technical improvements - for example the rezzing seems random sometimes; where it would be better if the closest appeared first and...
View ArticleHamlet Au commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden Realms,...
"I was just genuinely surprised that the man charged with leading SL into the future wouldn't be aware of some of the major initiatives of the past and why they were withdrawn if they indeed failed, so...
View ArticleHiro Pendragon commented on 'Hey Linden Lab: Instead of Streaming Linden...
Rod - forget Linden Realms.Put an orientation space directly in the client, so that a person can access it anytime and there's ZERO problems with gray-texture first-experience with new users.I mean, I...
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